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Post by Dragon Episodes on Oct 10, 2007 13:48:26 GMT -5
On the last episode, the final three came together for one final challenge. In the end, Emma continued her winning streak and won the final immunity. In a live tribal council, Mag became the last jury member and Morris and Emma became our final 2. Now they must face the wrath of the jury…
Morris’s Opening Statement
All I have to really say in my opening statement is this. I just want to react to Emma saying I was flippy-floppy. Because that's just not true. My game never wavered an inch. My only goal was to get to the final 2 with my final 2 partner from the first round which was Matt. So anything I said to anyone else throughout the entire game was just a plan to get to that point. Going to Ricky, Luke or Jenn was just to get something done that I needed done in order to get closer. Same with Emma herself, I wanted Emma to win that F5 immunity challenge so bad because it would make it that much easier to get rid of Mags and Laurie. The only thing I couldn't do anything about was Emma winning the roll that got her to vote Matt off. I figured Mag would get Emma on her side to vote off Matt...but also at that point I didn't really care because I knew in the end I'd be here next to Emma. Even if she says she would have picked Mag...wouldn't of happened.
I can't really say that Emma didn't play a good game, like I said already, because she's here. But I played a harder game and am still here. I proved every single round that I wouldn't be voted out. On Cobra I was a target for every TC but it still went my way every time. Same when we merged, I could manipulate every TC so that no matter what I wasn't the one going. The only time I recieved votes since Cobra were in the final 5 when Mag and Laurie couldn't vote for Emma because she had immunity, and of course not for Matt because he had the individual immunity (which I'm sure everyone figured out at some point or another), Ricky did a good job of bringing that about. Yes, I used everyone, and enjoyed it, and laughed about it with Matt...and it was a lot of fun and I wouldn't change any of it...even if it costs me the win. I've never cared about winning, the fun is getting here. Personally immunity doesn't mean anything to me because I don't need it to get here. Like Emma said she started winning as soon as she needed to. If I needed to I would have attempted the final challenges for real. But all I was interested in was helping Emma to win because it advanced my purposes further.
So no Emma, I didn't flip flop, because I wouldn't have ever casted a vote that would have directly lead to Matt being voted out, meaning voting with Ricky or Jen or you and Mag in the final 4. But everything that I did do, talking to them, promising them things, was just to effect other goals in my game. If you wanna know more then just ask, but I think I've rambled on long enough.
Emma’s Opening Statement
I want to start off by saying I was going to originally take Mags to the final two. I talked to her about it, promised her it in a way…but in the end didn't pull through. Why would I lie to her? I don't think I lied… I had a change of heart, and it was nothing personal. Mags is amazingly awesome, and I really wish I could have brought them both. By the time it was 9AM the next day Morris hadn't even started in the final immunity. I had a choice to make and it didn't seem like he wanted to make that choice himself. In the end I wanted a challenge -- but I also wanted to win, and I don't mean to sound conceited but I think I could beat Morris in the final two opposed to Mags…better odds? …and I think I have to go with my best shot after working so hard. I came into this game as the quiet girl who was totally under the radar. I watched power players duke it out, and when all their cards were shown I trumped them with my ace of spades and slid to the final two with ease. I took on a challenge of majority and won. People talked over and over how Mags and Laurie played the best game. I'm going to tell you exactly why my game was better. Laurie was everyone's number one choice, or rather the majority's choice to win the game. She just screamed "winner." And that was her problem…everyone knew that she was a challenge threat and strategist, hence she now has a huge target on her back and is no longer in the game for it. This goes for Mags too. At one point they wanted to hold back in challenges and if they actually did it, big mistake. I planned my route in this game cleverly; I played under-the-radar and was a follower. No one targeted me once.
Ricky left because he was a strategist and more then likely could've gone on an immunity run at any time. Jen after Ricky was the next biggest threat followed by Luke. No one thought of me as a threat because I didn't give anyone any reason too. The time I started to need immunity I won it, and knowing I needed to keep winning it I was the first person in this game to consistently win. Some people have doubts that I played a good game; well all I have to say is this. Did any of you expect me to show my every card early in the game? Survivor is a game about strategy and hidden agendas. Just because no one knew my strategy, doesn't mean I didn't have one.
The "Macaw 4" as we call them was torn apart at final four. The perfect four alliance was done, it failed. Final four and final three their fate fell into my hands, with Matt leaving because I won the tie-breaker…Mags leaving when I chose Morris over her. I was loyal to my alliances, my alliances being Alex, Luke, Ricky & Jenn.
I made a deal with both Mags and Morris at final four, for some reason they both wanted a deal with me. Who knows why, right? I made a deal with both because I wanted to get here if somehow I managed to lose. I did not fight for five rounds to not get to the final two, and I didn't fight five rounds to lose in the final two either. I broke a deal with Mags which I feel awful about, but it was easier because she hardly was here the past three challenges when Morris did try…if I don't get your vote that is entirely fine with me, but I really considered bringing you…this was the hardest decision I had to make it, and I feel horrible…but I worked so hard…
Finally it's up to you guys. Who do you guys want to see win? Morris who was a bit flip-floppy or myself who never had a target on my back, never got one vote, and ended up winning the final four immunities and a tie-breaker just to beat a tribal alliance of four macaw members. Some may say "oh well" she only won immunities, but those immunities kept me in the game over the likes of Laurie, Matt & Mags…three people who all should've placed one round further then they actually did. My strategy of UTR but active, turned into dominant and active at exactly the right time. No one had a time to target me or stop me from getting here, because no one saw it coming.
Jack’s Questions/Comments
To Emma…
Okay, 3 parts here.
1. Equate every single person in this game to an animal. I don't really care if you knew them or not, 17, including yourself, not including me (I have a very fragile ego).
2. Give each juror besides me ( I know the reason, natch) a good specific example of why they deserve not to be in the final 2 (ooh, and make it nasty).
3. Give me three (3) specific reasons you should win.
Tell me how each juror is going to vote, including me, and why. Same old hat, vagueness is frowned upon. Extra credit-tell me how....Alan, Shawn, and Alex would have voted as well, since they were the closest to the jury. Post it on your individual threads in this jury box.
Emma’s reply…
Alan is a dingo! He likes to eat your babies. Laurie is a cow, because she doesn’t stop moo-ing. Mags is a lovely butterfly. She’s kind and gentle. Samantha is a ant, cause we all barely saw her. Morris is a parrot. Matt is a hippo or an elephant. Just for kicks.
Jack you can be any animal you want to be! Erin is a mouse, because I heard she was quiet. Shawn is a walrus, because every cast needs one. Jenn is a tiger, because she is fierce baby. Matt is a hamster, because no one fits it, and well I really like hamsters. Ricky is a cat-fish, because he’d be better used as sea-food.
Me. I am a Cheetah! Oh catch the pun, (I never cheated though.) Luke is a Polar Bear, because he makes Ice Caps. Karen is a squirrel, because squirrels aren’t obedient and I don’t think she was. She quit after all. Alex is a koala bear.. cause I like them omg. Aaron is Gorilla. Sara is a lioness.
Ricky – He was way too apparent with the way he acted. He came off strong all the time, and he made himself a threat. If he would’ve lay back a little and tried following a little, he could be here instead of me.
He doesn’t deserve to be in the final two, because he tried to hard to complicate things at the final eight. He should’ve just told Morris out right who we were voting, however Morris still would have voted with the Macaw.
Jenn – I don’t think there is any reason that got Jenn booted. If I said one it wouldn’t be true, she won immunity twice and didn’t win it when she needed it. She became a threat in the eyes of the Macaw.
She doesn’t deserve to be here because she didn’t talk to enough people, she didn’t have chances to form bonds with the macaw, which I never either.
Luke – He made a mistake with voting Ricky out, if we could’ve tied that up we could’ve came out victorious with a majority. He chose what he wanted to do, he thinks it was the right move for him and that’s good enough for me.
What he did at final eight, kind of sucked, and that’s my reason. But saying that I would probably still vote for him if he was to have made it.
Laurie – she showed the world she could play this game. She showed everyone she was strategic and good at challenges, it didn’t work out because of that.
She can’t let things go, she is wrong about the whole cheating thing, she showed all her cards way to early.
Matt – Matt is out simply because I wanted to take Morris to the final two. Not because Morris was so good in this game, but because Morris lied to so many people he was the best choice. He showed everyone he can be a little shady, but he was really a good funny guy! I like him.
Mags – I couldn’t bring Mags to the final two and that’s what got her booted. I really want a chance to win, and I think a lot of people would’ve overlooked how hard I played, because of how hard she played early on, even though she was kind of invisible the last three rounds. (For good reason though.)
She doesn’t deserve to be in the final two for not being around the last few days. That’s really the only thing I can think of.
I should win because.
1. I showed I could follow a leader. I didn’t have to be in charge, I was content with letting someone else make decisions. 2. I made it very apparent from my application and round one that I wasn’t a strong player. This got me back-to-back immunities round one and two. 3. On Mamba I never once had a target on my back, because again I didn’t stir like many others did. 4. I didn’t bail on any of my alliances from Mamba, each vote even though we knew they were going, I continued to vote along side them. 5. I didn’t cheat on the puzzle. WOOOOOOO. 6. When I was about to get booted, I went on my glorious immunity run, and told them all before it started. I’m about to blow you all out of the water. 7. I saw that Morris was the best person from Macaw to bring to the final two, and did it. 8. I tied it up at final four, to complicate things and in the end got lucky and won the tie-breaker, sealing Matt’s fate. 9. I at least tried on the final immunity. 10. I don’t have a number ten.
There you go, more then you wanted.
Jack: I think that you’re going to vote me. I don’t know, I just think that you know how big of a bullshitter Morris is. He lied to you in this game which in result gave you probably no chance at all to stay in this game. He bailed on you, because he doesn’t have any loyalty. I feel that me taking out the macaw was like me taking one of their places for all of us who got screwed over by a ageist alliance. Plus I gave all four them a warning at tribal council when I first won immunity. I told them I’m about to win them all, and they didn’t stop me. Not even Morris. If Morris was loyal why didn’t he do something to keep Matt around.
Ricky: Ricky is going to vote me too. He knows how hard I worked, and wouldn’t vote Morris if someone put a gun in his mouth and told him they’d kill him if he didn’t. Morris lied to Ricky, and in result booted Ricky. There is a pattern I’m seeing.
Jenn: She will also vote for me, because yet again Morris talked crap that he could NOT keep. He just went on and on, and dug a hole with every person who was about to get beat. If he was SO good at planning and thinking in this game, why did he piss off every person who was voted off right before they were. He wasn’t strategizing, and he just ended up here because I wanted him to be the person I face. That is why Jenn will vote me to win, cause she understands all this, and has zero respect for Morris.
Luke: I think he will vote Morris. I don’t think that Luke exactly thinks highly of my game play. I would personally hope he would vote for me, but I don’t think he will, it’s a feeling. I think for some reason beyond anything I can even imagine he thinks Morris played an incredible game. When in reality Morris road the coat-tails of Alan, You, Matt, and finally me when he realized I was going to win every immunity up to the end. So I think Luke will vote Morris, for reasons I do not know.
Laurie: Laurie will vote Morris because she thinks I cheated, when I never. That is what she wants to do, let her do it. Grudges get people no where, well maybe in this case the wrong winner…but hey, that’s okay!
Matt: Matt will vote Morris because this whole game he pulled that kid around and kept him safe, and why let it all go to waste? For some reason Morris played a good game in Matt’s eyes, I didn’t think Morris did…well anything, but that could be just me?
Mags: I think that Mags will be voting me. Even when I lied to her at the end of the game, I think she understands we all had to lie in this game at some point. Me and her both are at fault for lying to someone we’re aligned with, and we can relate on that matter. Also Morris made an ass out of himself continuously talking horribly about Mags who did so much more, and had so much more to offer in this game then Morris.
Shawn: Shawn would vote me because if he would’ve went farther in the game the chances of him aligning with me then Morris would have been so much more likely. Not only that but Morris also lied to Shawn, like he lied to every single person on the jury. I would get Shawn’s vote without a doubt in my mind, and I haven’t even met Shawn.
Alex: I would also get Alex’s vote, because yet again Morris made an ass out of himself to another person. Its like a pattern, Morris lies, and someone leaves the game. Such an amazing strategy Morris had, just make everyone realize how fake you are.
Alan: This is a total guess but I think Alan would be voting me also. Why would he vote Morris who was to much of a coward to honor a alliance that lasted four rounds? That is pathetic. Someone might find that hypocritical, but my alliance with Mags wasn’t really a alliance, it was a deal; one that didn’t work. Morris made deals and alliances with so many people, countless people, and he still couldn’t keep more then one promise. He had to break them all. A good player would honor the majority of their commitments and not make excuses and try to bring others down constantly to make them look better.
I am also just going to throw this in.
Morris has been pathetic throughout this tribal council. He has said things about people that are just untrue. If anyone in this game has communication issues its Morris. Laurie didn’t go insane either Morris, unlike you she just decides on something when she does it, and even when I don’t like her choice for not liking me, she sticks to her guns and her word. I would never say she went insane, or that’s the reason she got booted -- because that is bullshit. She got booted because she is a strong player, something you are not. Luke had a strategy also Morris, it just didn’t work. Maybe if you had a strategy in this game, we could’ve see how you dealt with it, but you didn’t. You just followed people in this game, road their coattails and come the end when I bring you here, you act like you actually did something. I don’t think anyone is reading through your crap.
I think you’re one of those few horrible people in these games Morris, and I would never want to be a friend of yours after this game; because you’re not real, you pretended to be a nice guy throughout this game, and even when people gave you chance over chance you proved that you don’t understand the word loyalty.
Its not hard also to wait hours to do your questions in final tribal, just so you can read what I write and try to take my points away. Fact is I won my way to the final two, and you got brought here; by me, and that’s all I’ve got to say.
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Post by Dragon Episodes on Oct 10, 2007 13:48:44 GMT -5
To Morris…
Equate every single person in this game to an animal. I don't really care if you knew them or not, 17, including yourself, not including me (Unless I'm something cool, I guess.).
2. Give each juror besides me ( Like I don't know already) a good specific example of why they deserve not to be in the final 2 (Make it vindictive).
3. Give me five (5) specific reasons you should win.
Tell me how each juror is going to vote, including me, and why. Same old hat, vagueness is frowned upon. Extra credit-tell me how....Alan, Shawn, and Alex would have voted as well, since they were the closest to the jury. Post it on your individual threads in this jury box.
Morris’s reply…
Equate every single person in this game to an animal. I don't really care if you knew them or not, 17, including yourself, not including me (Unless I'm something cool, I guess.).
Matt is a Mayfly, because as I’m sure we all know the lifespan of an adult Mayfly is only one day.
Let me think about this...okay...Sara is a...dingo...because...they eat babies...and she...was...an...abortion...doctor. Yes, Sara is a dingo because they eat babies and she was an abortion doctor, I’m confident that’s the correct answer.
Samantha is a bear because I think if any animal would be good as a bartender it would be a bear. Can’t you just see it, Samantha the bear behind the bar getting her mixology on, shaking that martini shaker and pouring you a drink. I can see it. If you can’t you’re crazy.
Aaron is a dragon because Tina really likes dragons and I want to make her jealous that Aaron’s a dragon and she isn’t a dragon.
Erin I would probably say was a hippo, because you know when hippos just kind of sit there with their mouths open and then birds land in it, I’ve seen her do that, it was gross, and that’s why we voted her out.
Karen would deffinitely be cat because their breath always smells like tuna too.
Alex is a tough one because I’m like 87% sure he already is an animal...but I’d say he’s kind of like a bunny because bunnies are really tiny and cute but sometimes they hang themselves by accident.
Shawn is a lot like a snake because you forget to feed it for a few measly months and it dies. What the fuck is up with that?
Alan is a lot like a bulldog ant. For those of you that don’t know a bulldog ant is a giant (for an ant) ant that’s native to Australia and they bite with HUGE (again, for an ant) pincers and have a really bad poison and they can also jump and that’s just way too much power for an ant to have, they can’t be deadly poisonous, hurt a lot when they bite, be giant AND jump...I don’t know, I just think God gave them way too much power. Alan’s kind of like that, because he can jump.
Ricky is a mongoose, because remember that movie, Riki-Tiki-Tavi, yeah see his name’s in the title (kind of) and that movie’s title is also the name of the Mongoose in it, and so it just seems logical that’s what kind of animal Ricky is.
Jenn is 100% a dolphin, and I don’t think that needs any clarification.
Luke is a dilophosaurus. I know that’s not really an animal, it’s a dinosaur, but think about it. Luke has a poisonous blinding tarlike spit, he was in the movie Jurassic Park, and he may or may not have a brightly colored frilly neck flap that comes up as a defensive manuver to predators, scientists still haven’t figured out if that’s true yet.
Laurie is a horse because she’s a lot of fun to ride, especially bareback.
Matt is a hedgehog because, if you notice, Matt has lots of tiny spikes along his back that act as a defense when he curls up and fills the skin with air just below the surface to make his spikes jut out. Now there’s no way to get to his soft underbelly when he’s like this so what you do is pee on him, because when a Matt is in water he has to uncurl and deflate because he can’t swim like that and peeing on him makes him THINK that he’s somehow in the water so he’ll un curl and in that moment on confusion you flip him over and just sink your teeth into that fuzzy soft belly.
Mag is a very specific animal, Paris Hilton’s dog Tinkerbell. Because one time Paris forgot Mag at her friend’s house and they went on this whole thing about how someone kidnapped her and the police got involved and it was crazy but in the end Paris was just stupid. Also Paris likes to dress Mag up in weird little clothes mad for tiny dogs. Mag, I don’t know why you let her do it, it’s kind of weird, I can only assume that she pays you a salary or something. But still, that’s why I say you’re a lot like tinkerbell.
Emma is a Cheetah just like she said, but not because I think she cheated, that’s just silly. It’s because all the boys say that she moves fast.
I’m a jellyfish, because on the door to my room is a sign that says “Danger Marine Stingers” and that’s what you put up when there are rather poisonous species of jellyfish around. Also there was that time that kids saw me lying on the beach and started to poke me with a stick because they didn’t understand what I was.
2. Give each juror besides me ( Like I don't know already) a good specific example of why they deserve not to be in the final 2 (Make it vindictive).
Ricky doesn’t deserve to be in the final 2 because he made too big a deal of himself too early on and everyone knew that he was the person to get out. All of that would have been fine if he didn’t alienate the people that were supposedly close to him, meaning Luke, and apparently made Luke a target before, made him feel on the outs. If you’re going to be strong and show all your cards you have to make sure that you have the people to back you up in the end, Ricky didn’t do a good job of that.
Jenn doesn’t deserve to be in the final 2 because of well nothing. There’s no real reason I can see that Jenn doesn’t DESERVE the final 2...but she’s not in the final 2 because her allegiance was in the wrong place and that was just unfortionate for her. I don’t think it had anything to do with making herself a threat or not talking to people, in the end it’s just a poor bit of luck for her. I know you want vindictive answers but for Jenn I don’t really have one. She did everything right as far as I can see...she just got the short end of the stick.
Luke doesn’t deserve to be in the final 2 because he never knew what he was doing in this game. Voting with the Mambas, then moving to be with Matt, Laurie, Mags and myself, going back to Jenn and Emma...he didn’t know what he was doing. It’s best to just pick an alliance and stay with it, eventually the power is going to slip out of your favor if you keep moving back and forth. So Luke, yeah, that wasn’t smart, had you stuck with Laurie, Matt and Mags in the final 7 you wouldn’t have been the next out, had you stuck with Ricky in the final 8 things would have been completely different in the entire game.
Laurie doesn’t deserve to be in the final 2 because she wigged the fuck out. Emma cheated, Emma didn’t cheat, it wasn’t going to do any good by acting the way you did, obviously. When you tread the line like you do of being overwhelmingly powerful both socially and challenge wise...it’s best not to...go insane. And you kind of did, and it just made that much bigger of a target of yourself. If you didn’t make things so Laurie vs Emma...it might have been Mag that went in the final 5 and not you.
Matt doesn’t deserve to be in the final 2 because he really didn’t do too much. Matt was sitting pretty with the individual immunity idol the whole game, he never felt like he was in any danger so he just let things go the way they would, not caring really, not worried that he’d be voted out, because he couldn’t be. So his attitude towards the game was just kind of to let the chips fall where they may...if not for Emma winning immunity he would have been perfectly content to just go into the final 4 with Mags and Laurie and have the vote be a tie and anyone goes...sure that’s kind of what happened anyway...the point is just that he was too laid back about that kind of stuff, and that’s why he doesn’t deserve to be here.
Mag doesn’t deserve to be here because what the hell did Mag ever do?
3. Give me five (5) specific reasons you should win.
1. I outlasted everyone on my original tribe, and the mix tribe.
2. I never took a backseat to anyone, never let anyone do the work for me. I was always in charge of myself and my position of the game, no one held me up and no one could have just let me fall.
3. I always made sure I had options if for whatever reason my alliance was to turn on me at any given moment I had another way out, and would have continued to have another way out every round for as long as I needed to, in that regard I wasn’t ever in danger.
4. As I’ve said as far as alliances I never needed to rely on anyone to just ‘take me along’ but I also never had to rely on immunity, if you’re really playing the game...immunity shouldn’t be the only thing keeping from getting you voted out.
5. Emma may have felt the need to make 10 reasons why she should win (okay really 9), but I don’t even need 5 to get my point across.
Mag will be voting for Emma because Emma and Mag are a lot alike. They didn't really do anything that's worthy of winning other than be nice to people throughout the game. And nice people have to support eachother in the final 2 otherwise people will realize that playing the nice game is just a vapid excuse to make me vomit.
Matt will vote for me because he knows that I am responcible for a lot of how the game went, Emma's trying to say that all I did...is what she did...and just hid behind people riding my way to the top. But Matt knows differently since he and I were so close in the game, he knows that I did everything possible to keep around a stronger alliance that I had a better foothold in, and took out all the people that were threatening it and planning to break it apart when I had to. Matt knows exactly what I did in every step of the game, and my money is on the chance that even if at the final 4 TC there was no tie, and I voted for Matt to be out...he would still be voting for me because he knows I'm the better player.
Laurie I think will vote for me because Emma didn't answer her question and was really bitchy about it. Again proving that she really has no reason to be here other than immunity wins. Laurie recognises this because she knows that about Emma, and Emma pretty much sealed her deal with it by not answering her questions.
Luke I don't know, will he vote for Emma, the person who didn't care about him (no matter what she's trying to make the jury believe) and got here with no strategy (no matter what she's trying to make the jury believe). Or is he going to vote for the person who screwed him over but doesn't pretend he didn't, and played the game every step of the way in every fashion...I think Luke's going to vote for me because he reconises that beyond Emma just not being openly bitchy to people she has absolutely nothing going on for her.
Jenn's going to vote for Emma because I absolutely bowled her over and she has every right to be upset and vindictive about it, so she wouldn't vote for me at all, even if I'm up against someone who is pretty much just an empty know-nothing bitch.
Ricky is going to vote for Emma because if he doesn't then everything he did in this game by keeping her around and close to him is pretty much negated, if someone from his alliance can win it's like he won, so, of course he's going to vote for Emma. He's blinded by the fact that Emma was close to him to even concider voting for someone who actually deserves it.
Jack you are going to vote for the person that you think deserves it the most based on the way we answered your questions. Now I didn't read what Emma said because personally I don't care, but if you think she answered your questions better (at least in part) that's fine by me. But you should realize that you are really going to be the deciding vote in this game, will it be Emma or will it be me (at least in my eyes, but I could be off on my expectations, I doubt it, but I could be). So I guess the real question comes down to who will be the one to answer these questions the best. I don't know if I've proven that in your eyes. And I'm not going to get into game details that you weren't around for to try to convince you that you should vote for me over Emma no matter how these questions are answered because that's not what you're asking for. I'm just kind of rambling right now while trying to think of how you're going to vote but I really don't know. You can choose between someone who answered 2 out of 3 parts of your statement well...or someone who only answered one part well. I would say the fact that you created this fourth question means you want to vote for Emma so you're giving her another chance to prove herself through these questions, because apparently with her third portion she convinced you that she should win. So if that's the case I'd say that you're going to vote Emma...but if you'd already decided why make this 4th question. Because you want to vote for me too and you want to give me another chance to wow you or something. So in the end who are you actually going to vote for. I'm going to say that you're going to vote for me because beyond the way we're answering the questions you know that I was always on top of the game. We were on Cobra together and while we may never have kicked ass in challenges, you Alan and I were on top of that tribe. When we got to the merge no one wanted to save Alan or you. Why? Because Ricky had been busy poisoning their minds from once the mix-up happened. He did everything he could to make sure that people hated you. No one wanted to save you or Alan, I went to Matt and Laurie about it when we first merged (as they're the only ones that I knew at the time) and they wouldn't even concider it. So I cut my losses and distanced myself from you guys as much as possible. Abandoning you like that Emma might be trying to use against me to get your vote for herself, but Emma is the reason you're in the jury not me (well, Emma and everyone else in the jury). Whether I stuck by you and Alan or distanced myself from you was going to determined what happened to me once the two of you were gone. So who do I think you're going to vote for? I think you're going to vote for me, because I had to survive in this game and didn't depend on anyone or anything (cough*immunity*cough) to do it for me. I am a survivor, and Emma...Emma's like that piece of gum that gets stuck to the bottom of your shoe and you can't get off, not only is she worthless, but she's also gross to touch.
Now for the others.
Alan I'd say would vote for me without a doubt. He and I are still friendly, if he really thought I was some backstabbing beast he wouldn't ever talk to me again like I imagine Jenn won't. But the difference is I was a backstabbing beast to Jenn, Alan recognises what happened, he knows it's no fault of mine that he got voted out. And he'd want to see me win for really clawing my way to the top.
Shawn I have no fucking clue right off the top of my head...at first glance he'd probably vote for Emma because if he made the merge he was obviously going to be another of Ricky's pawns. It was clear to me all the way back in Cobra that was going to happen. Plus it was you, me and Alan that took him out. The way Emma refers back to things that happened in Cobra, well, she must have been talking to Alex and Shawn even though she wasn't supposed to be doing it, we already know she's a slutty Cheetah...but if I were to really think about it I still think Shawn would vote for me. I think Shawn wasn't close enough to Emma to really feel some sort of Ricky like attachment to want her to win even though she doesn't deserve it. And I think Shawn would recognise all I did to get to my place in the final 2 after Cobra was decimated.
As for Alex, he would vote for Emma. Why? Because after he went around to each of us in Cobra telling us each to vote for someone else I IMed him and went "Alex, I hate you, I'm voting for you, deal with it." And then after he was voted out I IMed him and said "IN YOUR FACE!" so yeah...he would probably vote for Emma.
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Post by Dragon Episodes on Oct 10, 2007 13:50:42 GMT -5
Ricky’s Questions/Comments
To Emma…
Hey Emma. So I just want to let you know. No matter what anyone says you owned this game. Like you said, no one thought to target you, and everyone else was targeted once or twice. You stepped up when you needed too and controlled the last part of the game cause of it. You deserve your spot and if you say you didn’t cheat the one immunity, then you didn’t cheat. There are tons of things that could’ve went wrong with your java or flash or whatever, and to be honest who can I say they think of you as a liar.
Emma’s Reply…
Aww, thank you Ricky. I’m proud of how I played this game, and I’m pretty sure I wouldn’t have done anything differently if we had to do it all again. I tried my hardest, and that’s all I could do. Even though our alliance didn’t get us as far as we would have liked, it was still one of the major factors that got me this far in the game, so I really want to say thank you so much for that.
To Morris…
Morris I think you’re a cool dude and all, but you lied to me, Jenn, Luke and you also lied to Alex and Shawn back on Cobra, and ultimately Alan and jack.. Why do you always find yourself lying when it comes to tribal councils? It seems you just lie for no reason. You lied to eight people in total, and all the times you didn’t really have to lie you just chose to lead people on to think something else. I know I lied to you also, but I also didn’t lie at your expense. If you were such a good player in this game why did you have to constantly lie to everyone but Matt, Laurie and Mags? Oh and why should I even consider voting for you? You really seemed to base your game off lying to everyone for no reason, and tagging along for a ride until f4 with the three mamba macaws. They protected you to the end basically, where Emma more then likely once she started to winning immunities saw she could bring you to the F2 because you lied to more then half the jury.
You road Alan’s manipulative coat-tail, you joined up and road Matt’s coat-tail; then in the end Emma more then likely decided you were the best person to go up against in the final two. What strategic move did you do in this game, and it doesn’t matter if you weren’t going to vote with the people you lied to saying you were; you still lied.
You were always safe, because of matt and alan.
Morris’s Reply…
Alan, HAHAHA, Alan did what I told him to. Alan never kept me safe. And I would have voted him out if Karen hadn't decided to quit the game. I wanted to go with Alex and Karen and get rid of the other ones but she decided to quit so I just figured Alan was already doing what I wanted him to so no point in turning on him. But I actually never lied to Alex or Shawn. When it came time to take care of them I never said I would vote with them. In fact I told Alex off before the tribal council because he was going around telling everyone he was voting for someone different. Before he did that I told him I'd vote with him, and after, then I just told him to go to hell. I couldn't keep around someone I couldn't control. Once we merged Alan made a convenient scapegoat, and it was only at that point that Alan knew that I was never allied with him. No one else wanted to save Jack so I just went with that one. Then we come to you I needed to get close to you so I knew what you were doing. I didn't need Matt to look after me, obviously, as I could have very easily gone with you that round and voted Laurie and not been voted off. I knew you weren't being honest with me so I felt no reason to be honest with you. Then Mags and Laurie wanted to get Luke in on the alliance. So after you were gone I got Luke to want to vote with Jenn, Emma and Myself and take out Laurie. I had no intention of doing this because I knew that Luke, though he did this whole talk with me about being final 2, had a previous agreement with at least Emma that he wasn't going to tell me about if he still intended to keep...and if he didn't...well...then obviously his word meant nothing. So again had no problem setting him up or lying to him. The lying to Jenn did have a purpose, it was to make Luke the next target by getting him to vote with them. I wouldn't just lie indescriminantly, that's no fun. You I didn't feel warranted telling the truth to because I knew you weren't telling me the truth, as Emma let it slip that you were all voting Laurie when you told me Matt. Jenn was necessary to set Luke up and Luke was necessary to set Luke up. Lying to Emma was obviously to get her to go far enough along with to make it to the final 2. I couldn't have her going with Laurie and Mags at the final 5, that would have ruined everything. Lieing offers a degree of control over people and makes them vulnerable. That's how I've made it to the final 2 in all but 2 games that I've played. A strong alliance for final 2 and then just manipulating everyone else out of their spots along the way. I didn't have to lay low and just wait for my alliance to bring me along because in the long run that would have gotten me 4th place or possibly worse. By setting out on my own and turning people around and around so there wasn't a chance for me to get voted off is how I play the game. And it works. Obviously. You can say that I just hid behind Matt or Alan or Emma...but if that were true then I wouldn't have done any lieing in the game, I wouldn't have had to even talk to you. I made myself get here, nobody did it for me. And I don't expect you to give me your vote because for some reason you think Emma played such a good game when really she did exactly what you accused me of. She hid behind you, let you take her as far as you could while making a target for yourself and getting voted out. You did all her strategising for her, then Jenn did, then I did...and of course she hid behind the all powerful immunity idol. She didn't get here all on her own, and I did, and that's why you should even concider voting for me. Because like you, I don't depend on immunity or other people to just bring me along each round, I go out and make it happen. I was just a bit better at it then you were in this particular game. And I look forward to talking with you more once the game is over!
Jenn’s Questions/Comments
To Emma Wow. That’s all I can say when I think of what you accomplished. When I was voted out at the final 7, I was sure that you’d just be voted out unanimously after me. Boy was I wrong. You clawed your way to the final two, and I have the utmost respect for that. I don’t even buy that crap that winning immunity somehow downplays your strengths as a player. After all, outplaying is 1/3 of the game, and you sure outplayed the competition. You needed the immunities and you got them, and for that I say bravo. I think you possessed and implemented the perfect strategy – you stayed quiet until you needed to get loud.
To Morris I’m not going to lie. What you did hurt me a lot. I always try to separate strategy from personal feelings, but I’m not seeing any strategy behind the lies and false hope that you gave me before I got voted out. I’m not one to pretend that I was 100% innocent in this game, however. I did my fair share of lying as well. But the way you treated me at the final 7 is shooting me some serious red flags right now, so I need to ask you about that. Now, you blatantly lied to me the night when you/me/Emma/Luke had that big strategy chat about us going to the final four. You had no intention of that ever happening, but that’s fine. That I can understand, respect, and take. Fast forward a day, and we’re about an hour or less away from Tribal Council being posted. I ask you to come clean with me. I have an inkling that you were lying the night before, but I still ask for you to just be honest with me so I’m not blindsided at the vote. You go out of your way to assure me that I’m safe, promising me that Laurie would go. We were less than an hour away from TC, but you still lie to me. I read those votes and was hurt. Why couldn’t you have been truthful with me at that time? The votes were cast, my fate was sealed, and you could have salvaged a ton of respect in my eyes by being honest. But nope, you gave me false hope when we were moments away from the vote that was already set in stone. That pointless 'gambit' of yours had absolutely no strategic credence, and nothing can ever reconcile that in my mind.
My question to the both of you is to pick a single word that describes the way you played the game. Give me a couple of sentences proving that you reflected that word during the game and then give me a couple of sentences showing how your opponent did not reflect that word.
Congratulations to the both of you for getting to this final stage in the game. Even though I may disagree with some actions in the game, you both deserve to be sitting there since well … you’re the two in those seats. Good luck to you two and may the best Survivor win.
Emma’s Reply…
Loyal
When Ricky wanted an alliance without Luke I said no, he is in, or I’m out. When Ricky first suggested booting Luke, I swayed him to boot someone else, aiming for Matt. This is why Matt became the target later on. I was loyal to you and Luke even though we were out numbered. I stuck by my alliances. I never ever swayed away from any of my friends in this game, didn’t even humor the idea or pretend. I was completely with who I said I was with, before my entire alliance was booted.
Morris was a lot of things but one of these things was not loyal. He lied to Alex and Shawn giving them false hope, two tribals in a row. He abandoned Alan/Jack, and lied to Ricky, Me, You, and Luke for four rounds straight. He then lied to me saying no matter what he’d take me to the final two, so just to ensure this I booted Matt. He comes out now in his opening statement and claims this untrue. Morris played this game based on lies that if weren’t told, the game would still be the same game.
Morris’s Reply…
I just want to say to Emma that really I have no idea where this Alex and Shawn thing is comming from...because I flat out told Alex that I was voting for him because he was pissing me off, right after we lost that immunity challenge and were all talking about how to vote...and that was the round that Karen quit, and had she not done so Alex would have been gone then, as I told him, the next round...I didn't talk to him at all. So I never gave Alex any false hope. The only person I really gave false hope to and then totally pulled the rug out from in this game was Jenn and pretty much Luke...who was really the one I was aiming for and Jenn was just like collateral damage. The reason why I didn't tell you was just that I didn't want word getting back to Luke and him to change his vote. Because then it all would have been for nothing. As you'll see in the episodes I felt bad about lying to you...but I just did what I had to in order to get the results that I needed.
And now for my word
Loyal
Emma can go on all she wants about me not having loyalty, but just ask Matt how loyal I was to him. I knew there was no way that Emma was changing her vote in the final 4 to Mags and I could have just voted for Matt as well but he was my partner and I never would have cast a vote against him, even if it meant I myself might have been voted out because of it. Emma was waving that purple rock card around like it was going out of style but I didn't budge because I do have loyalty...I just know where my loyalties are, and they stay there no matter what I said to anyone else in the game I was always playing for myself and Matt and in the end never would have cast a vote against him. And that's loyalty. My deal to him came in the beginning of the game and nothing else would have come before it. So what Emma might call abandoning Jack and Alan I would still just call being true to my alliance. Emma can say she has loyalty all she wants but what the fuck did she ever do to help her alliance? Oh she saved Luke once or twice...he still went...she could have tried to do something about it but she just decided to cling to her immunity idol and let him go down the drain. That's not loyalty in my book, she was always looking out for herself and only herself, as evident by the fact that she took me to the final 2 instead of Mags. She's right to believe that I never would have taken her to the final 2, ever, so why would she pick someone who values her so little and she has such a small opinion of over someone that she thought played a great game? Because she wanted to win, it's all she ever wanted. She can say that she was loyal to Ricky, Luke, Jenn anyone she wants...but really she was only ever loyal to herself. Being in an alliance means putting yourself out there to protect the people that you're involved with and that's what I did, you're all pissed at me because I went out there and got to drive your forces away from myself and Matt, and got you voted out in the process...but when did Emma do that for you? She let you all go down in flames and when she saw the opportunity to start winning immunities and save herself from a sinking ship she took it and never looked back. That's not loyalty. That's a self serving bitch.
Furthermore, I just checked to make sure I was right, and I am. That first immunity that Emma won, she wanted me to tie it up, hope to save Luke see what happens in a tie breaker and I said I wouldn't do it for Luke (that kind of would have negated everything I did the round before and made voting out Jenn completely pointless) but I said that if she didn't have immunity I'd do what I could for her. But did she even concider giving her immunity idol to Luke...of course not. With all that loyalty in her to herself she didn't have any to spare. I guess even that stupid Jenna M. is a bit more loyal than Emma, she gave her immunity idol to Heidi when Heidi was on the chopping block, even though it put herself at risk she did it because that was her friend, her alliance partner, and she would have done anything to save her. And that's what loyalty is, that's what Matt and I had for eachother. I don't see Emma putting herself out there for anyone. Emma wouldn't even take someone she refers to as a more deserving player than I to the final 2 because it wasn't as good of odds for her to win. That's some nice loyalty you got there Emma.
Luke’s Questions/Comments
Alright! Final Two!
First of all, the game kicked ass. It was uber fun and I'd like to thank Tina for that. Secondly, you guys. Congrats on the Final Two! No matter how much some people might hate you or be pissed at you, you did what sixteen others couldn't do but wanted. No matter how you got here, immunities or strategy or both or neither, you got here. People are entitled to be pissed at you, naturally, but hold your heads up high for at least getting this far.
Morris, a huge congrats to you. I have *no* idea what was going on in Cobra, but I know in Piranha you had Mag/Laurie/Matt on your side. Which was good for you because you didn't necessarily have to worry until the Final 8. And then after that when things went in your tribe's favour, not again until Final Four. I think you played amazingly. You were never really a target. Let it be known though that from the first round of the merge, through my confessionals, I always said you would be the black sheep to win this thing. You would somehow make it to the Final Two and would somehow win. I remember, knowing at the beginning of the merge you wouldn't be my ideal F2 partner, saying something along the lines 'Morris will NOT win this game' as kind of a goal for myself. But you outplayed me, in the Final Seven making me think we'd team up. Again, not a bad strategy. Wish I had thought of it myself. So on regrets on my part, you played awesome, and I wish you the best. Congrats on pulling the whool over everyone's eyes.
Emma. I owe you a huge apology. I was an asshole to you the whole game. From the first round in Tucan everyone wanted you gone. The first vote was only so hectic because you were the target. Me, Alex & Aaron were budds and Karen and Sara were buds. And Me, Alex & Karen were budds. So you were on the outside. I probably lied to you the most in this game, which is surprising & disappointing, because I think you were so honest with me. In the second round Aaron never offered me and Alex Final Two alliances, we set that lie up to get you on our side. In the swap I never really felt any loyalty to Ricky knowing he tried to get me out. I know he came forward with it, and I know you trusted him a lot, but I never got that. So when it came to eight I had no problem really writing his name down. Obviously I knew what I was doing. I wasn't dumb, I knew Morris/Mag/Matt/Laurie would stick together. And I told them my concerns. But, in all honesty, come merge I never really thought I'd make it to the end of the game. So I lied to you again by not voting the same with you. Then after Morris swapped the next round and I knew I was screwed, I felt bad that you were still by my side. So I really apologize for lying to you so much.
Onto your gameplay. Again, you played very smart. It was really risky in the beginning, seeing as no one knew Individul Immunities would come into play, and you would have left if people didn't see you as weak. Just a tip I guess I could give, don't play so weak that you're someone a tribe can lose easily. I admire the fact you were able to step up and go on an Immunity streak. Just like everyone else, I never saw it coming. And Jenn is right, outplaying is aprt of the game.
So onto questions.
Morris. Emma got a huger rant then you did cuz I knew her from the very beginning. So you've made it clear that Matt was your primary alliance. So my simple question is, lets say I had made the Final Five instead of Emma. Let's say Immunity didn't come my way, but to Matt or you or Mag or Laurie. If I had pressured you for a Matt/You/Me final three, would you have gone for that even though I would have been next in line?
Emma. Did you ever lie to me? Obviously won't be holding it against you, seeing as I lied to you, I'm just curious. I always thought that in our Ricky/Jenn/Emma/Me thing I was 4th in line. I felt you were a lot closer to Ricky, and Ricky was the only one out of us (I thought) that was close to Jenn. So, even though things might have swapped around and nothing is completely certain in the game, was I 4th in line? Did you guys every hypothetically talk about what would happen in 4?
Again, great job to both of you. You both played awesome, and wish you both luck!
Emma’s Reply…
Hey Luke. I must say, I was pretty surprised when I read what you wrote. But in all honesty, do I hold any of this against you? Not at all. You did what you felt you had to do in the game and like I’ve said in the past, I just wish you felt you could’ve been honest with me. I respect the fact that you’re telling all this to me outright, and not waiting for the episodes to come clean. We had different strategies in this game, yours involved lying to me, and mine involved being honest. Meh, there’s not much we can do about that. In this game you were never afraid to do what you wanted to do, even if it came with consequences, and I really admire that. So yeah, I just want to say that even with this confession, I still have a lot of respect for you and the game you played.
Now onto your question. The answer is no Luke, I never lied to you in this game, ever. I even fought for on more than one occasion. At the second tribal council in Tucan, Alex and Aaron told me they were ready to vote you out because you weren’t at the challenge that night. This was still pretty early in the game, but I was already determined to somehow save you. I told them that I’d vote that way, but I was still scrambling for an alternative. So when you two approached me and told me about Aaron’s “final twos”, I was sooo relieved, and was prepared to vote him out despite the fact that we probably talked the most on that tribe. When we both found ourselves on Mamba, Ricky immediately approached me for an alliance. I said that I would only agree on one condition; that you would be on the same level as us. When he said he wasn’t up to that, I said I wasn’t going to get involved. He must have reconsidered this, because he told me before we had that group chat that he would be up to it. I don’t regret any of the decisions I made about our alliance, except for the fact that you felt you couldn’t trust me. I wish I could’ve somehow showed you that you could trust me, because I was honestly prepared to go to the end with you.
There was never any hypothetical talk about what would happen if we wound up being the F4, atleast that I was involved in. There’s no denying that I was close with Ricky, and yeah we talked a lot. But believe me when I say that I would have never ever compromised you for Ricky, or anyone else for that matter. We were together from the beginning, and I was ready to do anything I could to get us to the end; together. You may have possibly been Ricky’s fourth, but you were my number one in this whole thing.
Morris’s Reply…
Thanks for your congratulations Luke, I honestly didn't expect it and I appreciate it a lot. As you may have noticed a lot of people here don't seem to think that outwitting or outplaying them is deserving of respect. And I'm not just talking about respect towards me. Anyway, if you had made it to the final 5 instead of Emma you wouldn't of had to pressure anything. I think that answers your question in full. To elaborate though as soon as Emma was in the final 6 I was on her about the final 5, about trying to sway someone to vote with 'us' because Laurie had already stated that she, Mags and Matt would just stick together (though I knew that not to be true about Matt) and because Laurie was all up in Emma's grill about winning that challenge Laurie neeeeeeeeeeeeever would have tried to get Emma on her side, she would have rather been voted out...am I right Laurie? That's just the way I saw it. I could be wrong, I'm not an expert on Laurie, it's just the way I saw that going down. Anyway, I helped her win that next immunity challenge so Matt would have no choice basically but to do it (because if she didn't have immunity it would have been too tempting to just vote her off and then we'd have an F4 problem and it would be annoying). And so if you had won immunity in the final 6 I probably would have gone to you and tried to get the same thing to happen as I did with Emma, though it would have been harder to get the vote to not be for you in the F5 because I made you betray Mag, Matt, Laurie and I...but Matt knew about that so I don't think he would have held anything against you. Honestly I would have been more surprised if you had come to me about making a threeway with Matt and myself. After all I did to try and get you out in the F6, I would have been suspicious...but you wouldn't have had to pressure me into it at all. I totally would have brought it up first even I think. Even though I didn't really trust you because of that whole Alan thing I would have put that aside if I had to go and do what I did with Emma.
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Post by Dragon Episodes on Oct 10, 2007 13:53:37 GMT -5
Laurie’s Questions/Comments Hello F2 players. I could congratulate you for being here, but I truly believe that one of you doesn't deserve to be here, or didnt get here fairly. That said, while on the surface it would appear my vote is pretty apparent, it's not. I want to address the character of both F2 contestants, as I see it, before I ask my questions. ANd F2ers, no need to respond to any of this - you both know I'm pretty hard-headed, and nothing is going to change my mind on any of this. Emma, you cheated. Only once that we caught you, on the puzzle challenge, but who knows how many other times throughout the game. I don't believe for a second that your score vanished. You know why? Because I know if someone accused ME of cheating and I didn't, the FIRST words out of my mouth would be "oh so I'm cheating? gimme the puzzle 10 times bitch, I'll beat it 10 times". Instead, you "decided not to". Of COURSE you chose that! There's no way you could have cheated again and gotten away with it! Your reaction to the protest I posed was what told me the true answer, and not the action itself. So let's look at your track record Emma. You say you didn't cheat. You could say til you're blue in the face that you didn't, but in my heart of hearts, I know you are lying. In your closing statment, you say that you "didn't really lie to mag, but you guess you did, it was just a change of heart". SO maybe you "didn't really cheat" either it was "just a change of score", eh? Once again, you have disproved your own credibility. You know what they say? Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me. I don't care if I'm in the minority here, I know a lying cheating snake when I see one (hell, I've dated enough! haha), and you are the worst kind. The kind that act all sweet and innocent and "why is everyone picking on me?" when all the while you're laughing at them behind their backs for being such suckers. Morris, you on the other hand, managed to scrape your way through and remain in the game by doing...........well, as far as I could see, next to nothing. You know I love you to death, and I think it's pretty amazing that you and I could remain friends in 2 games now where we were openly on opposite sides, and never did anything to sway the other - we just accepted it and were able to play the game on good terms anyway, only briefly teaming up in a larger alliance when we needed to. But, let's face facts: you're not that strong in challenges, you kind of half-assed a lot of the TC/vote questions, you are so laid back to the point where a lot of times, I wasn't sure you even cared that much about the game. And for someone who would have played it to the death like I would, that just seemed out of wack to me. So we have, one person I wouldn't trust as far as I could throw them, who DID play with a lot of gusto, and the other who I DO trust quite a bit.......but didn't impress me as far as actual game play........... hmmmmm. So here are my questions to the 2 of you, they're probably easier and lighter than you think, based on my opening statement to you both. But since I feel I know everything I need to know about you both as far as game play, let's go another direction, shall we? 1. What one person from the game deserves to be on the jury who is not here? Why? 2. Who is your favorite all-time real Survivor from any season? Why? Are you like that person or unlike that person? Give an example. 3. Music is a HUUUUUUUUUUGE part of my life. Give me a band, musician or composer I should check out and why. 4. Finally - in 10 words or less, make me laugh. That's all, and good luck to both of you. Emma’s Reply… I am sorry you feel that you have to bring this up. I said so many times that I never cheated, I am sorry that I won the immunity and I am sorry my score didn’t come up on the site. I don’t know what you want me to say, you can dig all day to find reasons on how you’re right and I’m lying…but being completely truthful, I’m not lying and I’m not going to admit to lying, when I’m being honest. When it came down to Tina saying I could re do it I said no because I won it fair and square the first time. I’m not you Laurie, I don’t do things the way you do them I do them the way I do them, and I wasn’t going to do the puzzle again when everyone wanted to move on anyway. You can keep digging at this cheating thing, and even though I don’t respect what your you’re saying. I respect you. When it comes down to it, your wrong about this and I hope you can realize that. I did not cheat, and that is final, sorry. Are subnics say it percectly. Your a venemous snake and im fucking Tarzan. I'm not answering your questions, cause i'm not getting your vote regardless. Sorry but, no, I didn't cheat...I just beat you. I am not having you trash me with False/Wrong accusations. I am standing my ground, and you can do what you want to do, and thats vote Morris. Morris’s Reply… I'd say Alan...just because I don't think I could pick anyone else that was voted off before jury that I felt deserved it. I mean I love Matt but he was voted off first so no...and Karen quit...and other than that...nope...no one but Alan. Plus that Hellraiser game that he hosted is fucking awesome...I like Hellraiser...I like Pinhead...I kind of wish that the neophytes were my friends...but if they were my friends they'd probably torture me with chains and hooks and needles and there was that guy who shot CDs out of himself...that's when Hellraiser got stupid. 2. Brian Heidik, because he's a bastard, a used car salesman AND a soft core porn star, he didn't need the money never apologised for any of it and still won. Also everyone on that season absolutely hated it, and I think that's funny. I don't know Laurie...do you think I'm a bastard and would be good in movies like "Virgins Of Sherwood Forest" I'm interested to know. 3. I don't think you were the goth kid in highschool, but I wasn't either and the second that I heard The Dresden Dolls oh so many years ago I fell in love with them and since then have gone to every show they've done in Massachusetts or New York...and one in Paris...and they're just so much fun. They're kind of like brechtian cabaret punk music...if that makes any sense to you. But most people are just like "oh god they are sooooo goth" but just because you wear all white makeup tightfitting black and white clothes and sing about abortions and cutting yourself doesn't mean your goth...it just means you're out of your goddamn mind. So you can see why I like them. The drummer Brian's also really hot and I know him semi-well...Amanda scares me though...I've never talked with her and don't think I ever could talk to her...it's just not possible...she's just...so...frightening. But also they're really cute and weird and they posed with Bernd Das Brot once and that was a lot of fun because Bernd is a big fan...okay so I made that up but they did pose with him...it's just that he's...Bernd...and he doesn't really like anything. But their new CD "Yes, Virginia" just came out and it has some of my favorite songs of theirs on it so you should check it out or I can send it to you via aim or something. They're the kind of band that like...if it hits you just right...you'll become a little obsessed...just a little...at least to the point that you'll concider getting a bowler hat and going to see the show wearing it putting your hair into cute little braids and hoping to pose in a picture with them and then they sign it. I never did that, because my hair isn't long enough, but I've seen other people do it. Cabaret on crack. That's another good example of what they're like. A russian traveling show that steals little children. That's another good example of what they're like. 4. Midgets live in your underwear drawer and try things on. MattG’s Questions/Comments My question for you Emma is: How Fast Can You Solve This Puzzle?? (P.S. You can even use Autosolve!) www.jigzone.com/ms/z.php?ui=621160671i2238518&z=100_piece_classicThat being said, I was always a believer of the "get away with whatever you can" mentality. So regardless of how that challenge was done, I don't really care. I'm not voting for you because Immunity is not strategy. In a game without it, you finish 5th at the most. Your alliance was also defeated. And because you are claiming to be a big time player in this game, you should take more pride in your alliance. It sucked. We had a tie at F8, you couldn't hold your alliance together. Plain and simple. If you're really the best player in this game, you should have done a better job. I feel a little more entitled to being bitter because typing "//roll" is not "winning" a tiebreaker as you so eloquently put it. You also called me "snakey" which I don't appreciate...I figure I'm more of a weasely type...so clearly you're a bad judge of "person-to-animal" comparisons as well...and that's like...50% of this game. On That note, if you win, it's obviously deserved....but man...the OC still blows massive chunks. Morris, I have a 2 part question for you so bear with me. First of all, why couldn't you roll a 9? Secondly, If you were in a huge mall with millions of zombies, how would you kill them? Congrats on F2 Big Guy. Morris’s Reply… Because obviously Emma cheated. And I think that I'd just have to play it by ear you know, use whatever's around...like that chair...bench...golf club...plant...other zombies...your face...you know anything I can find that could be deadly. Mag’s Questions/Comments Well here we are.......... final two left standing. Am I disappointed that Emma chose Morris? Sure. Am I pissed off, vengeful and angry? No because that's not who I am. In these games, I try to play with honesty, integrity and with my whole heart and soul. Unfortunately, others feel the only way to get ahead is to lie, cheat, backstab and manipulate the others in game - assuming perhaps that they are all inferior and 'don't matter' in the grand scheme of things. What players like this seem to forget is that the people they lied to & backstabbed are the same ones who decide their fate and decide who will win this game. So here we are........ To Morris AND Emma: Every person has the ability and free will to decide their own actions. They can act with honor or act with malice and lies. I fully believe that we all have BOTH of these 'sides' within us, but your true character is demonstrated based on which 'side' is most predominant and which side you choose to use in life. What I would like each of you to do is list the positive & negative 'sides' of each player in this game from Matt on through each of you. I want your honest opinion and concrete examples of why you answered as you did. EVERYONE has an 'evil' side as much as they have a 'good' side so I really don't want to see the "There's nothing bad I can say" answer. What I don't hope to see is cruelty or namecalling because I think that says more about YOU than the other person, so I hope you are as considerate & thoughtful as possible with your response. I also want you both to be as honest and forthcoming as possible with your OWN self-analysis. You know better than anyone what your negative traits are.... so I want to hear directly from you. I'll be really honest.... this vote is very difficult for me. One of you I was aligned with (or so I thought) for a good period of time but apparently 95% of the others were as well and the other I went out on a limb for and put my faith in completely, only to be made a fool of. The way you answer will absolutely determine which way I decide to vote. Emma’s Reply… Matt – Negative: He seemed a bit immature. I never got to meet him but I was told when he was booted he got caddy and decided to tear each player from Parrot apart, and I don’t think that’s right. Positive: I hear from other people that he was a good guy with a good heart, loyal and someone you could trust in these games. Sara – Negative: She didn’t really try to save herself when it came to her boot. She just decided to let things happen. It was the start of the game and I thought she could put some effort in. Positive: She was really sweet! She was kind hearted and was here for fun, very fun loving girl. Samantha – Negative: She didn’t get to know my fabulous self. The girl should’ve made the shit hit the fan to stay!!! Positive: No one seemed to think she was a bad person, and she is beautiful, I am sure she would’ve been a decent honest player. Aaron – Negative: I had the impression that he was a really shady character. Alex and Luke made me believe he had final two’s with everyone, and really when he was booted I didn’t know anyone good enough or have any alliances…so…I was okay with anything, but my impression on him that he was a double player, and even though it came to be untrue, I guess that still is kind of my impression. Positive: He was really active, he was nice to me…but he was a little crazy! Kind of spunky in a way, he seemed to really be into the game, and I liked that. But it also made it believable that Alex and Luke were telling the truth. Erin – Negative: She was never on and that made it difficult for anyone who ever was on a tribe with her to get to know her. She had a chance to get to know people, and I think she might have decided to not really bother. Positive: I never got to meet Erin but I heard she was really nice when you caught the chance to talk to her. Karen – Negative: She joined this game because a friend joined it, and when he was booted she wanted to quit!!! We talked her out of it and then she just ended up quitting again when her ex tribe mates actually needed her. Positive: She was also someone who was nice, and in the end she did stay a few extra rounds for the tribe, even though I would’ve hoped her to keep it going until she was actually booted. Alex – Negative: Alex lied constantly in this game. I adored him, but he seemed to have all his strategies tangled with a lie or two. He wasn’t someone you could trust and he based most of his moves on making something up… Positive: He was a good friend in the game, he had my back I think, and he really tried to make the game more fun, for better or for worse. Shawn – Negative: He seemed a bit two faced from what I heard. He had an alliance but he’d talk shit on it. I don’t think that’s how an alliance should be. You need to respect it enough, and I don’t think he did. Positive: From what I know he was loyal to Alex and stuck by him even when he knew they were getting picked off, and that’s awesome. Because he probably could’ve saved himself, by teaming up with the opposition. But he chose not too. Alan – Negative: Alan came off really strong, he said a lot of things that made me confused on what he wanted to do in this game. He would try to stir things up, and I just didn’t really appreciate what he offered the game at that time. Positive: He seemed like he would have done anything to stay in the game, and even when you cant always respect that, you can understand he wanted to go farther then he did in this game. He just didn’t go about doing it right. Jack – Negative: I really think if he didn’t give up and would’ve tried a few things he may not of left at this point. I personally wasn’t completely with the lets boot Jack thing, and I think if he would have tried a little more or played up that he has the idol or something…that he would be safe. Positive: I think Jack said a lot of funny things, I didn’t understand why he rubbed some people the wrong way. But this was a time where I decided I need sit back and let the egos fight it out. I think he was HILARIOUS! Ricky – Negative: Ricky was someone in this game who had one of those big personalities. I think sometimes what he didn’t realize was that he could do some negative things. Like fakely conspiring with Jack, and trying to have a four person alliance, with Mag on the side. Positive: Ricky is such a talented person. I got hear a lot of his songs, and he can sing! I think he is going to do awesome in his chosen profession. Game wise? He tried his absolute hardest in everything he did. Jenn – Negative: Jenn really didn’t talk to a lot of people that much. I know I talked to her and that Ricky did, but she didn’t talk to anyone else really. Not even Luke who was in our alliance. I just think we all felt we were a little more secure then we actually were. Positive: She is a FIGHTER! She knew that at final eight it was her or Ricky going, and she fought for that immunity and won. I was so sad and proud at the same time…cause you know one is staying, and the other is going. Luke – Negative: He doesn’t trust people as much as he should, and I feel that he doesn’t like to take responsibility for mistakes. I know he doesn’t feel his betrayal was a mistake, but I think it was. Positive: Moving away from the mistake, Luke is a gentleman. He is so charming and nice its unbelievable. He made a silly mistake in this game, but his attitude and persona makes up for it. He is classy. Laurie – Negative: I feel that Laurie thinks she is superior to some people because she has been around longer, and has more knowledge in certain aspects. I think when she thinks she is right, there is no compromising and I don’t like that. I wish she was open to understanding that not everything is what you want it to be. Positive: I genuinely feel Laurie is a force of nature in this game. If she would’ve won immunities come merge, she would be here. But she put a target on her back, and then didn’t protect the big red sign that says. “Boot Me.” Matt G – Negative: He was a bit shady. You knew he had a hidden agenda and that he would play some tricks to go farther. I didn’t like the whole Jenn scenario, or that he made it seem like it was Laurie, Mags and Matt… opposed to Morris/Matt. Positive: Matt was hilarious and he always lightened the mood. He didn’t take anyone down for what other people thought and he always had his own opinion. Mags – Negative: I think for the majority of it all you were pretty honest. I think the only negative thing I can think of is you should have told Ricky you were voting for him, or not of voted for him at all. But we all make mistakes about not telling people we have had a change of heart. Positive: You played a clean game, you were nice, you respected everyone, and you always stood your ground. You were someone who I would vote over myself if I was facing you, even if I thought I deserved it more. Because you’re so likable. Morris – Negative: He seems to make himself seem bigger then he really is. He is portraying his spot in this game like he did a lot more then he actually did, when I think it was sooo apparent that it wasn’t true. Positive: He is a nice guy on the out side, even with the hidden agendas. Myself – Negative: There was a time in this game where I should have told someone I had a change of heart, even though they weren’t on beforehand I should have let them know I had nothing in stone, and I think that indecision at the end of the game was major negative point. Positive: I was a nice person in this game, I played as a follower and when I needed to I played independently. I tried my best to not step on anyone’s toes, and was just me.
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Post by Dragon Episodes on Oct 10, 2007 13:54:32 GMT -5
Morris’s Reply…
Matt - This is the Matt voted out first by the way, not the Matt voted out final 4. Matt's actually a really close friend of mine and the only negative things I can say about him is that he gets way paranoid in games which I think stems from his being unsure of himself at times in real life. I don't know if that's a negative negative thing...but it's really the only thing I can think of for Matt. Oh, that and he's kind of a sore loser, or at least he was a big sore loser in this game after he got voted out first he didn't shut up about it. As for a positive I'd say that Matt is one of the best people I've ever met, he's absolutely hillarious and 100% loyal even when he shouldn't be.
Sara - Anything that I said about Sara would be a lie because I never heard of her before this game and I never got the chance to get to know her at all in this game since we were never on the same tribe.
Samantha - Negative side I'd say is that she was far too eager to get to the scheming part of the vote in this game. The first TC we went to she immediately just started to talk to everyone about whoever wasn't there at the time "let's vote for them!" and it is really what lead to her being voted out. Positive side to Sam is that she was so enerjetic about the game and was excited about playing. There was a lot of life to Sam the little that we got to see of her.
Aaron - Again, someone I don't know...I was never in a game with him before and not on a tribe with him for this game.
Erin - Negative side to her is that she was very innactive from what I heard from people that were on her tribe before, and then she also didn't show up to the only challenge that she on Cobra for, so innactivity is her negative side. Her positive side...all I can really say is that when she talked to me in Cobra about the vote I just told her "Yeah, we're just voting you out because you're innactive and it seems like what everyone wants." and she was just very graceful about it, didn't try to start shit as far as I know.
Karen - This is another person that I've known for a long time. Karen's negative side, well, in this game at least (I've just never seen her do anything like this before so I was shocked when she did it), she's a quitter. She quit the game because she said she found all the people she'd been with (other than me of course because she loves me and I love her and we make babies sometimes) boring and she had life stuff with her big AP tests comming up so she just wanted to quit. We weren't going to let her quit but Tina stepped in and made it happen. So yeah, she's a quitter, and for me that's a big negative. Her positive side, there's a lot to say positive about Karen, she's completely original and amazing if you get to talk to her, she's loyal to you no matter what, you could turn to Karen and be like "I know we have a final 2 alliance, but I think I'm going to vote you out" and she'd be like "Okay, you're a bitch, but okay" that never actually happened, but I know that if it did that's kind of how the conversation would go. And she wouldn't be upset about it and we'd remain friends. She's a great friend, alliancemate...whatever that's called...she's a great everything in my opinion.
Alex - Negative side...okay I'm going to say that I think your negative side is just that you don't go about your plans very well. You wanted to get Jack out by telling everyone to vote for someone else...the problem with that is that when you tell everyone to vote for someone else...and people talk...we just think you're a giant snake who's going to try and take us all down. You told Jack you wanted to vote for me, Alan you wanted to vote for Shawn and me that you wanted to vote for Jack...so obviously when Alan says that you said Shawn to him it's like "okay what's he up to, he told me Jack" and then Jack's all "what he told me Morris" it's like...there's no reason to believe you after that. It's not that it's a bad plan...it's just that you didn't execute it well, you should have let someone in on the idea. So that's my negative about you. My positive would just be that until you were voted out you still never stopped scheming and trying to get everyone to vote every which way, there's a lot of determination in you and you fought as hard as you could for your place in the game, that's admirable.
Shawn - Negative side, okay so day one on that tribe an alliance was made between myself, Alan, Jack and you...and then the first TC you came to me to vote out Jack...that just seemed really to make no sense at all to me. So I guess your negative side would be just that you were way too eager to get Jack out that you involved yourself in a situaiton that you didn't want to be in, then tried to break it down but in the process didn't really seem to think all that through...just like Alex there was just really poor execution in your methods. Good side, you were quiet, didn't start any shit, just tried to glide through the best you could and hope that someone would help you out or that we'd win and not have to go to TC until the merge. When you saw there wasn't much you could do to break up the alliance you didn't try and snake your way into anyone and make them break off, you were just turning your attention to challenges and stuff to make sure you wouldn't be in the position to be voted off.
Alan - Negative side is easy with you, because it's what everyone knows lead to your being voted off. You are very very controlling, you like to make yourself known and make yourself the head of everything, but not in a good way. Like Laurie does the same thing...but she has a sweetness about it that makes people a little more accepting, you're just very abrasive and rubbed everyone the wrong way while doing it. The only other thing I'd say about this side to you is that, it was also just in a way you fooling yourself into being in charge because you could never get people to do what you wanted no matter how hard you tried in this game. Positive side is a little tougher. It's like everything that makes up your negative side to a degree is a positive, so I was not completely right when saying your negative side was your wanting to be the head of everything, make yourself known, and try and be the top of the dog pile...because that's not really a bad thing like I said, Laurie kind of does the same thing. It's just the way you go about it, the abrasivness that makes it a negative. But if you strip away that abrasivness all those things are your positive side, there's nothing wrong with wanting to win and wanting to be in charge, you just have to learn to be not so heavy handed when going about it.
Jack - I'd say your negative side is pretty much what Emma's said about you before at one of the TCs, you really just gave up and didn't try and save yourself at all. It wasn't even just the last round you were in, once the merge hit it was like you just hit a brick wall and said "Well, there's nothing I can do" and you let everyone pick off Alan and yourself. It's understandable, you're up against those odds and you just give up...but it's a negative even if it's understandable. Positive side to you is just your whole personality, I mean there's really nothing negative I could say about you other than just that you gave up. You're fun to talk to and honest and loyal, at least in my experiance with you but other people in the game might have other things to say about you that kind of is why you got voted out. But in your interactions with me that's what I got from you.
Ricky - Your negative side is not just that you're untrustworthy, but also that you don't trust other people. I mean sure, you shouldn't of had a reason to trust me because there's no way I was able to trust you and was never going to try and join you for real. But that's just it, if I was being honest with you, and you then came to me at that TC and was like "Yeah, I was just testing you to see if I could trust you and you passed" I would have just been like "Yeah, um, fuck you and you just proved to me that I can't trust you so I'm glad I passed your test but there's no way I'm aligning with you now." and you would have killed that...sure...um...I probably in all honesty would have been like "oh sure I understand YAY" to your face...but I wouldn't have been able to trust you still at that point, and that would have been all your own fault. So I'd say that's your negative side, not really that you're untrustworthy because obviously you were trustworthy for Emma and Jenn and the others in your alliance...but you weren't trusting, that's the negative. As for a positive, I know I keep saying this about people but it's kind of like the only negative things I can think about people are the ways they played the game, positives are all about them as a person, Ricky again is a really fun person to talk to, easy going and easy to get to know and easy to get along with.
Jenn - Jenn's negative side...or positive side...I don't really know. I only really got to know Jenn that one round. I would say that her negative side is just that she had all that talk of 'alias' surrounding her. Not many people thought she was who she claimed to be, even since the very first round as far as I have heard. So if that's true that would be a negative thing to Jenn...if not it's just an unfortunate thing that she's had to deal with in this game and I wish I knew how it all got started personally, because I have no idea, but I've been hearing it for the whole game. So that may not be a real negative but it's all I can come up with and that's just my fault for not really getting close to Jenn. However her positive side is that she's very trusting and willing to give people a second chance as she did with me, sure I slapped her in the face for it, but that speaks to my character not hers.
Luke - Negative side to Luke, hmmmmmmmmmm, I would say Luke what I found wrong with you is you couldn't really make up your mind. You were doing what I was pretending to do but for real. Flopping all over the place. You went from Ricky's thing to Matt's thing, to Jenn's thing to my thing...just moving all over with whoever had the best deal at the time. You couldn't seem to make up your mind about what you wanted to do. Your positive side would just be your general willingness to do what was needed to get yourself further. You're another one that your negative's wrapped up in your positive.
Laurie - Laurie's deffinitely one where the negatives and the positives are all one in the same. It's like okay Laurie negative side, she's acts emotionaly, strong headed, shows her hand too soon, most likely more honest than she needs to be or should be in some situations. But all those things are what make up her positive side. Laurie shows herself as a threat right away, she wants to be in charge and she wants to do well. If someone strikes at her she's going back at them harder out of anger (if it actually angers her) and that can cloud her judgement. She makes alliances that she will be true to the bitter end and her honestly makes her tell things to people that she probably shouldn't, like way way back at the merge she told me that there's no way she'd stick with me over Matt and Mags in the final 4, and that was the point where I was like "okay...now I've gotta do what I've gotta do to make sure that I'm getting further than that" and set a course of events in motion that lead to me being here. So all her positive traits can work against her and make them into negatives.
Matt - Um...negative things to say about Matt...there's just so many that I can't choose just one. Um...Matt...you're a bastard there's really no other way to say it but it's why I love you so hard. Proof of this would just be that Mags and Laurie both seemed to think that they were in a final 3 with you while at the same time we were in an F2 so obviously there was some major lying going on there...to Mags and Laurie...and I think that would qualify you as being a bastard at least every bit as much as I am one myself. As for a positive I'd say that I've had more fun talking to you than I have with any other person I've met in a game ever. I'm sorry to all my good game friends that will be reading this (Matt, Karen, Tina, Laurie) but it's the truth. Matt and I connected in a way that I've never connected with anyone else in this world of ORGs. So you're hillarious a lot of fun to be around, kind weird, likes zombies and the dark tower and everything that I like basically, you're a gentle lover, and all around nice guy...when you're not being a bastard. That's usually the description I get about myself from people I meet in these games (Laurie, Tina, Karen, Matt, other Matt...you know you agree), so I think it only fitting that I give that description to you.
Mags - Negative to you, sorry to say, is just that...what the hell kind of a strategy did you have in this game at all? I just didn't get it, beyond just "I have my alliance" I didn't see much from you. I talked to you a bunch and I liked you just fine, I think you have a lot of positives about you too...but sometimes when I'd try and talk strategy with you I'd get so confused...once you mentioned something to me in like the final 5 about us being the final 2...and I honestly don't recall ever having that conversation with you...I felt kind of like you'd make up things in your head based on a conversation that maybe was put out there but never really talked about in any kind of detail...or even if I am reading that wrong and you're like "what, I never had a final 2 with you" then I'd say (first of all you're right as far as I knew) that whatever you were saying in the final 5 about us being the final 2 was even more confusing. So I'd say your negatives is just that everything about you, about your strategy really in this game is very muddled and unclear and it has a lot to do with the way you communicate with others. Positive I'd say is again like a lot of the positives I'm giving people, you're sweet and honest (though I've heard plenty against that from other people that know you...but in my experience with you you're sweet and honest) you try hard in this game and you wouldn't let up (the last week wasn't really your own fault you were on vacation and you still were able to get yourself on the internet for this game and that's impressive, if I went on vacation...I don't know if I'd been able to have done the same).
Emma - Positive thing about Emma, like Mags she wouldn't ever count herself out in this game, wouldn't give up and gave it all she had. I don't really know why I started with positive here and negative everywhere else, but it just seemed like the way to go. Emma is an all or nothing kind of person, she hasn't ever lied in this game (I mean even Mag's forgiven her for the small indescretion she made at the end of the game), she told me she'd bring me to the final 2 if she won the last challenge and she kept her word as I knew she would...and as I deffinitely wouldn't have done. And she's shown that she's good at immunity challenges, personally I don't care if she cheated as I told her when the whole thing first happened, she could have cheated every time but really if she didn't get caught that still just proves that she's good don't you think? Negative side to Emma as I said before is just that her game didn't start until the end, she never quits but she wasn't full force at this game until she had to be, she hid in other people's shadows until there was nowhere else to hide except for her to keep winning immunity. To me that's not a strategy, that's an absense of strategy, all it shows is that she didn't really know what to do in this game strategically wise and to me that's a big negative. She didn't prove herself to me in this game, and if I was in the jury I wouldn't vote for her, if it was Emma vs. Mag I would vote for Mag because even though I don't see any strategy there, I see even less in Emma.
Morris - Negative about myself is just that I get off on behaving the way I do in these games, I get off on making it to the final 2 by any means necessary and I get off on losing for it. I don't know why, I really don't have a reason, it's just kind of fun to me. It shouldn't be because especially like with the case of Jenn she really put herself out there and I just like...stepped all over her...but because I was setting up Luke for a fall I was so fucking giddy about it, I like couldn't contain my excitement when those TC results came in. It's a problem it's true. I was playing in an Alias game with a really good friend of mine, my best online friend. Of course we didn't know it because we were using Aliases. We were on opposite sides of alliances. One day she came to me on aim so upset because of the way someone was treating her in a game and she was so excited that she was finally going to get that person voted out. She said the name of my character, that it was me that was doing this to her...and the first thing I did was report to the host of the game that she revealed who she was in the game to someone and she got kicked off that round with no TC. I wasn't voted out and with her gone I made it all the way to the end. And at that point I said that I was never going to act like that in a game again, and I didn't even want to play anymore after that. But first Matt begged me to play his game, where I met Tina (and Laurie, hi Laurie) and then Tina wanted me to play her game...so here I am...and I couldn't stop myself from being the exact same way. So as you can see that's a very negative side and I full admit it, but I'm not going to appologise for it. I think the positives to my personality vastly outweigh the negatives, as evident by the fact that that girl is still my best online friend and since that experience we've been closer than ever, so I don't think that I can pinpoint one thing about myself that so positive other than if you want to be friends with me, I'm a good one...just know that in online games anything goes...it's like a disease.
Emma’s Closing Statement
I really don’t think I have much left to say. Morris came into this final two thing with the intent to totally trash me, and he did just that. I am so surprised at how low he went. But you know what? That’s okay. I brought Morris to the final two because I knew he would be like this. Since Luke left my goal in this was to get him to this spot, because I knew he was totally fake this entire game. He lied to everyone, he even admits to it. He even lied to me, he wasn’t going to bring me to the final two. All he proved this entire council was that he is such a phony! He was never in control of this game at any point, and really neither was I. I had control at F4 and F3, and I did what I had to do, and right there is so much more control then Morris had at all. If you want a backstabber, a liar and just someone who isn’t even that respectful as the winner of this game, then go ahead and vote Morris.
I came into this whole thing genuine. I never cheated and I’m sorry some people are convinced I did. I was nice to everyone, respectful of everyone. This tribal I tried to make myself a case, not totally degrade Morris. I want to win this and I showed that through my immunity wins. The final IC I posted way more then I had too, just to prove I want this. I beat both Mags and Morris by 900 posts. I fought to stay in, and I may of not had the perfect alliance…but not even the perfect alliance was great. The macaw four had to break apart at final five.
There are immunities in this game for a reason, and I used it to my advantage. Even when my alliance crumbled, and the odds were against me, I’m still here. Morris walked to the final two because of Matt. I got to the final two, because of me. I worked hard, very hard to get here. To the people in this game who think my strategy was barely a strategy, well then why am I in the final two? Cause mine seemed to work quite well for me.
People can doubt if my strategy was good or not, but it was obviously good enough, because I’m here and that’s all I have to say. I played this game to my personal best, I’m happy with it, and I showed my determination over and over in this game. Whether it be answering all these questions fast because I care enough to do so, or winning immunity’s.
If you believe all of what Morris says, then you definitely should be voting Morris. If you believe he was such the great manipulator, and controlled us all, then that’s your guy right there! All he really did was lie to a lot of people, because he wanted too…not because it was strategy or anything, but he just wanted too. I don’t understand how he can do that, cause when I misguided Mags on F2; I felt horrible, I didn’t feel right about coming to the final two, because I shouldn’t of told her that I also wanted to bring her. Even saying that though, I really didn’t have a chance to tell Mags my change of heart, Morris had ample time to tell every single person he lied too, but he just simply chose not too.
Its up to you guys, all seven of you. Vote who you think earned it, cause in the end this was a amazing game, and I’m happy with it.
Morris’s Closing Statement
I honestly liked Emma before getting to the final 2. But she took every opportunity to bash me in the final 2. She wants to pretend in her closing statement that she didn't, but to quote a 1st grader, she started it. In Ricky's thread...though it now seems to be deleted by Tina since...you know...you aren't supposed to post in the other person's thread. So Emma bashed me, once, and I was like "Okay, fine" And then when I had the time to start answering people's questions I noticed that she was doing it a lot but disgusing it. So if she wants to go all "Mean owd Mowwis huwt my feewings" that's fine by me. But she showed who she really was in this final 2. She had absolutely no gameplan and her only way of trying to convince people that she did was by going "MORRIS LIES!!!!" and that's fine. Then she wants to get mad at me because I start to bash her back...better than she could hope to bash me I might add. I'm better than Emma on a lot of levels. And she may be crying in her emo highschool kid's room (oh come on look at that picture it's true) but that's nothing new. So don't feel bad for Emma, she does her part too. I don't really have anything else to truely say about this game in my closing statement. I made my arguments many times in all your threads. Emma wants to believe that I didn't control this game because she wants YOU to believe that I didn't control this game so you won't vote for me. Emma's a sad sack of cow titties and I hope she gets kicked in the face at the next Fall Out Boy concert. Then maybe her outsides will match her insides. Toothless. Her insides are toothless. I could go on and bash Emma all day. I was holding back before, but if little bitch wants to go I can bring it. She wants to pretend like she did me some big favor because she took me to the final 2 over Mags, and wants to pretend she feels bad about it. Emma doesn't feel bad about it, if she's telling you she does Mag it's because she wants your fucking vote. "I wanted to cwy becawse Mags isn't hewe wif me!!!" But you didn't bring her because you wanted to win. You just want to win Emma so admit it. Stop hiding behind the phony nice girl exterior, you're a self serving bitch, and you just don't want people to see it because you're afraid they won't vote for you. She even wanted to discredit me by saying that I take too long to write up answers. Maybe you don't have anything to do thursday, friday, and saturday...but it happens to be my best friend's birthday on top of things so I haven't been around. Believe me, I would have loved it if you fucking waited for me to answer every jury question before answering your own. I didn't need to know what you were going to say to make my case, but if you're going to answer first then I'm going to read it eventually. You're just grasping at straws honey. You want to try and out be as being a liar or being mean...um...I own that shit, I never pretend to be anything else, there's no outting going on. But another thing I own is being good at this fucking game. And that's something you're not honey. If you were good at the game you wouldn't need Ricky, or immunities to keep you afloat. So stop acting like you are, nobody enjoyed Survivor Marquesis because some stupid ho like you won, someone who does nothing but makes it to the end...so if you're the winner, I'm glad to hear it, now you'll be able to be like "yay, I'm the winner" but I hope you lose so that when you cut yourself under your sheets at night it's for a good reason.
And that concludes Survivor: Jungle Fever 2 episodes. I hope everyone enjoyed reading them as we all enjoyed playing it. I couldn’t have asked for a better cast! Stay tuned for the last installment…the live finale where we will learn who has out witted, out played, and out lasted to be the ultimate Survivor!
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Post by Dragon Episodes on Oct 10, 2007 14:33:29 GMT -5
The Votes Luke’s Vote *Goes Up And Writes A Name Down* I'd be a hypocrit if I didn't vote for you. I'm a firm believer that the best should win the game. I saw you as my target from the beginning of the merge, but you were better then me, and positioned yourself amazingly. *Luke writes down the name MORRIS* Emma, nothing personal. As much as you played a good game in the Final Five and onwards, I really only saw your game at that time. In Tucan it was more me, Alex and Karen. In Mamba it was more Ricky & Laurie. And in Pirahna it was Morris. I don't see winning four Immunities in a row, as amazing as that is, as reason to say you should win the whole game. I wish you the best of luck. Morris. You played awesome. If you do win Tina better write my quote 'Morris will NOT win this game' somewhere in the episodes. You played awesome. I don't really approve of your closing statements, but I think you were more honest and more real in your answers. I believe you did only care for yourself and Matt in this game, and thats what you did, and here you are. Great job guys, wish you all nothing but the best! MattG.’s Vote My Vote is for Morris. Even if Morris wasn't my friend I would be voting for him, simply because he took bullets for his (my) alliance in order for it to succeed, that's how he made it as far as he did. Emma did shit all for her alliance, then won challenges when she needed to in order to survive. Morris would have made it as far as he did with or without immunity and I think that proves who the better player is. Morris outwitted people over and over again...and they kept falling for it. That is their fault not Morris'. I think I have officially lost all respect for Emma after her answering/lack of answering jury questions. Who I thought was a young yet knowledgeable and very nice girl is now but a tempremental, immature person with way too much of an ego as to how she got where she is. If she would have been honest in her questions, saying she was lucky as shit to be here, I might have considered voting for her. Oh who am I kidding...no I wouldn't have. Laurie’s Vote My vote for the person I want to win this game is for Morris. I know it would appear that he stepped on a lot of people in this game, but even though he was key in voting me out, he never stepped on me, and we were always honest with one another. I also can't vote for someone who I feel didn't get here fairly, and I will never ever believe that Emma got here without cheating. I know, I'm a goddamned broken record on it, but when I feel something is true, I don't back down. Either of them winning is kind of hilarious if you ask me, based on the way they've been acting towards others, but I really hope that somehow Morris pulls it off. And thanks for a fun-filled never-boring game - this was awesome. Jenn’s Vote It's no surprise that my vote tonight is going to Emma. I just think she played an awesome game. I hate it when people think that winning immunity somehow takes away from what you accomplished during the game. Emma would have been voted out several times without the immunity necklace, but she perservered through that and fought her way to the final two. That, in my mind, says "Ultimate Survivor". Morris, on the other hand, had a completely different strategy. Let me condense his 39 days of strategy into a few words. Pointlessly lie to someone, get them voted out, act as though that was a brilliant and masterful strategic move. Sorry Morris, but that doesn't cut it with me. Lying does NOT equal strategy. You lied just for the sake of lying, and you pissed off a bunch of jurors in the process. Where's the great strategy in that? You do realize that in the end, those jurors are going to hold your fate in their hands, right? I guess you forgot to consider that one. Emma deserves to win, and she's one vote closer to getting there. Good luck Emma!! Ricky’s Vote Emma is my vote to win. Morris you have problems, and everything you said in the final tribal proved how screwed up of a person you are. Please don't talk to me at all after this game is done, you're fucked up. Jack’s Vote I've thought about this vote for some time. I don't know how the cards will fall, but I'm going to have to go with my gut here. This person may not hav played the best game (neither of them did), but they earned my respect. One played like I would have in their position, just badly, and one played in a style incomprehensible to me. I guess this is how to vote, my gut tells me so. EMMA Mag’s Vote Well.... seeing as I was waiting to vote to read all of the answers to the jury questions..... but now can't read ANY of them...... I have to vote based on the 3 or 4 answers I was able to read... So..... I came in to this F2 vote thinking that I would stick it out with Morris....because he had not 'lied to me' like Emma had with her F2 promise. He was true to his alliance and I could not fault him for that. Then I began reading his answers..... and realized he was a cocky SOB! His arrogance in some of his answers cost him my vote, but I don't believe he will care. Therefore, my vote goes to Emma. Other than NOT being honest with me for the F2 thing, she did not 'laugh' about being superior to others in the game (or if she did - she didnt brag about it!!) or act like she has this thing sewn up. By a vote of 4-3 Emma wins Survivor: Jungle Fever 2!!!
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